tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9163141447241149534.post4554025181272682223..comments2024-01-18T09:21:21.157-08:00Comments on Disciples of Boltax: Bish's Review: Marvel UK #147 "The Legacy Of Unicron" Part 2Jimtronhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18138709079942253485noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9163141447241149534.post-89062392820687760832011-11-18T05:28:47.460-08:002011-11-18T05:28:47.460-08:00eugene, TF Wiki is populated 50% by people taking ...eugene, TF Wiki is populated 50% by people taking the piss and 50% by people who are so obsessed with transformers they can remember which panels Ratchet appeared in in every US issue. <br /><br />But one thing it does not have, is someone checking everything is correct. I've found a lot of suspect comments on there, so many in fact I take the whole thing with a very big pinch of salt.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9163141447241149534.post-46243735982461079762011-11-16T07:34:28.667-08:002011-11-16T07:34:28.667-08:00Oh, thanks! Guess my hunch was right.Oh, thanks! Guess my hunch was right.Eugenenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9163141447241149534.post-65618786382538314652011-11-14T06:04:47.261-08:002011-11-14T06:04:47.261-08:00The cover credit in the issue itself is "Jeff...The cover credit in the issue itself is "Jeff Anderson, Stephen Baskerville, and John Burns".Tim Roll-Pickeringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12589024696145675963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9163141447241149534.post-72630355944588501442011-11-10T08:14:24.794-08:002011-11-10T08:14:24.794-08:00Strangely enough, both TFwiki and TFarchive claim ...Strangely enough, both TFwiki and TFarchive claim the cover was drawn by Lee Sullivan (which is of course, impossible). I personally thought Jeff Anderson was behind it when I first saw it (Mostly for Unicron's drool and the unconvincing dynamics).Eugenenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9163141447241149534.post-27758172678410796652011-11-07T12:02:15.236-08:002011-11-07T12:02:15.236-08:00no Furman used the combined teams frequently, you ...no Furman used the combined teams frequently, you only have to look back 2 reviews of the UK title to see him use the combaticons. And that was definitely NOT an introduction story. <br /><br />Combined forms were used sparingly in the comics, presumably because other gimmicks were introduced causing the gestalt thing to become old hat very quickly. <br /><br />as for inconsistent art, the UK had no choice really. When you are putting out a weekly title, you would constantly miss deadlines unless you have multiple artists working at the same time on several issues at once. Plus to combat plot changes necessitated by the US title (which never actually acknowledged the existence of the UK title) script changes could happen at a few days notice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9163141447241149534.post-35875749144512329642011-11-07T10:44:19.256-08:002011-11-07T10:44:19.256-08:00Well, Furman used Predaking in 'Prey', whi...Well, Furman used Predaking in 'Prey', which admittedly was an intro story but one he did by choice, seeing as the Predacons weren't released as toys in the UK. So does that count?<br /><br />MartinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9163141447241149534.post-62906565630853217902011-11-06T20:32:58.309-08:002011-11-06T20:32:58.309-08:00Indeed, an issue so awesome that only devout nitpi...Indeed, an issue so awesome that only devout nitpickers could really find a minor flaw...so it's a good bet that someone in Transfandom will: <br /><br />On the Obscure TF website, "Jhiaxus" points out that Shockwave apparently hires his Decepticon elite guard right off the set of Doctor Who. Senior designed his best generic TFs when he could focus on just one, like the Autobot technician in US#61, and the green guy in UK#98 who apparently went on to influence the appearance of both Death's Head and Dragon (of Claws fame). When he had to make up more than one in a panel it was a bit of a mixed bag. Even the greatest TF artist of all time ain't quite perfect, an argument I use when I'm trying to sell more casual fans on the comics and they complain about art inconsistency; we have variety because no one gets it all right all the time. <br /><br />Granted, that argument's pretty easy to counter by citing any ep of the cartoon animated by AKOM, but I stand by it. <br /><br />Another thought on Shockwave's death: Was it that draft of the TF:TM script released a year ago that confirmed Shockwave was supposed to die in it? Interesting that so many fans assumed he was killed by Unicron at the end because he led the counterattack, and in the cartoon universe his death would be emblematic of Cybertron's transition from Decepticon to Autobot hands, yet it doesn't actually happen onscreen. In the comics however, Furman flat out tells us no, only to have Unicron make it so a year later, in a much different fashion. Sort of like the reveal of Wheeljack's survival in Space Pirates (though presumably everyone but Hopper got better, and that might have been the artist's mistake). <br /><br />And kind of like how in Japanese continuity, almost immediately after The Return of Optimus Prime, Op is soundly re-killed in the 3rd episode of Headmasters. Whether you thought it undermined his heroic death in TF:TM, or thought cartoon Op deserved to die for his creepy policy of burying alive those he couldn't ethically kill and that Rodimus Prime was actually a better leader, his cheap resurrection was not the greatest move. <br /><br />Sorry, back on topic: HEY! Was this the only time Furman ever used a gestalt when not mandated to by an introduction story? (Devastation Derby doesn't count: using Devastator was clearly part of the "Special Setup". Superion showed up twice in Earth Force, but it's kind of hard to score that...) He offset this by later leaving Monstructor out of Rhythms of Darkness and thereby all of comic continuity. You could almost say the same of Budianski's work; I guess robots combining kind of wastes panels in a comic and can't look as cool as in animation. Yet when one panel absolutely requires a big door-opener, gestalts will be remembered...half the time. Trypsie deserved his repeat appearance just as much. <br /><br />-BumblevivisectorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9163141447241149534.post-10893006456655940042011-11-06T09:06:26.209-08:002011-11-06T09:06:26.209-08:00Inciteful thoughts Chuffer. I've actually alwa...Inciteful thoughts Chuffer. I've actually always thought that Shockwave and Unicron would make for a pairing with interesting story potential. Megatron (and subsequently Galvatron) is mostly rage and bluster and raw power, but Shockwave (in the comics at least) is a schemer, as is Unicron, even with the might at his disposal.Bishbothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01429304622553626284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9163141447241149534.post-20531636227989878632011-11-05T05:09:34.162-07:002011-11-05T05:09:34.162-07:00Great characterisation, superb art – this issue wa...Great characterisation, superb art – this issue was one of my favourites from the Marvel UK run.<br /><br />Although it builds into the bigger Legacy of Unicron storyline, these last two issues make a nice pairing with the ‘Headhunt’ storyline (it helps that it was ¾ drawn by Senior).<br /><br />The seeds of Shockwave’s own downfall were sown from his hubris that he could manipulate the Death’s Head/Rodimus/Cyclonus & Scourge situation to his advantage – only to have it all rebound as he gets caught in the web of a greater schemer. A fitting end for the character.Chufferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03100510579733340261noreply@blogger.com