tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9163141447241149534.post3197865204457161659..comments2024-03-28T15:14:28.323-07:00Comments on Disciples of Boltax: Review: War of the Worlds, the series ep 20Jimtronhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18138709079942253485noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9163141447241149534.post-66853432797494079162015-08-04T08:43:21.448-07:002015-08-04T08:43:21.448-07:00Apparently, even with the retooled show for season...Apparently, even with the retooled show for season 2, this was not going to be the final appearance of Quinn. The initial idea That Frank Mancuso Jr had for the second season was to have Quinn overthrow the Advocacy and become the leader of the Aliens. John Colicos was asked to come back and offered the role as a series regular but was tied up with other projects. They went with Denis Forest as Malzar instead. This makes me wonder if the return to 1953 in Season Two's "Time To Reap" was a potential door open for Quinn's return in Season Three (which , of course, did not happen) The article about this can be found here:<br /><br />http://starlogged.blogspot.com/2012/08/1988-war-of-worlds-tv-series-part-two.htmlScott J. Larsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10767608424957418833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9163141447241149534.post-24404446510412177972012-05-09T13:53:40.494-07:002012-05-09T13:53:40.494-07:00I just found this blog. I love love LOVED this sho...I just found this blog. I love love LOVED this show as a kid, and I am thrilled like a child that they finally got around to releasing it on DVD (Season 1, anyway)now that I am an adult (or as close to one as I'll ever get).<br /><br />To Dysamoria's point (posted over a year ago, but...), there was a reference early in Season 1 - a conversation between Suzanne and Harrison, if I remember correctly - about the aliens being able to use our bodies as the perfect disguise "at least until they come up with something better..." Hmmm, perhaps the cloning in Season 2 was "the something better"?<br /><br />Truthfully, I think we're stretching to make any connections between Season 1 and 2. Greg Strangis himself will tell you the show was more or less taken from him and given to Mancuso, Jr. by the Paramount brass, so I doubt there was little more than the absolute necessary collaboration between the two. He was pretty unhappy about how it all happened.Advocatehttp://www.documentsunknown.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9163141447241149534.post-4356107848911562802011-01-21T11:22:45.588-08:002011-01-21T11:22:45.588-08:00i have some ideas on Quinn for relevance to S2 in ...i have some ideas on Quinn for relevance to S2 in my WOTW fanaticism:<br /><br />as posited by Jimtron, Time to Reap suggests at least one alien escapes the machine-gun carnage (they very deliberately show an alien accept the vaccine from Malzor and walk through a passageway, though it's unclear if that's away or deeper into the area the aliens are huddling... the deliberateness of it suggests to me that that alien escaped). so, say that's Quinn, inoculated. i have some other ideas about that, posted in comments after the review for that episode. but here's the real beauty of Quinn and the Morthren in season 2:<br /><br />where do you think the Morthren got their immunity to Earth bacterium in S2 E1 Second Wave? we never once see Morthren in their native physical form (except, thankfully, in a welcome flashback in Seft of Emon). it was originally scripted(or just planned) that they'd appear in their original form, go into a cocoon and come out of the fleshy sacks as humanoid, but all we got in the actual televised story is the Morthren coming OUT as naked humans (a rare example of the groupings of three that were maintained for a painfully brief bit of S2), not going in as their original form. also relevant: when the Morthren attempt to reproduce, they are forced to use a human to gestate the young. it's never really explained. a neat concept written for the Mor-Taxian aliens in the novelization of The Resurrection is that they have three sexes. male, female and an egg layer or "carrier." so i summarize as thus:<br /><br />the Morthren arrived on Earth. either the Advocacy had already captured Quinn or the Morthren did so upon arrival. studying Quinn, they created a template for modifying human DNA or their own DNA to replicate Quinn's benefit so that when they took human hosts, they would be safe from infection. they then took hosts en mass (i would have suspected it was a cloning or genetic engineering feet, but then why would the cloning device be considered so unique as they seemed to suggest?). just like Quinn, the Morthren were also bound to the host bodies permanently. this means they could not reproduce naturally nor could the carriers gestate young or lay eggs. so we have season two's all-too-"human" aliens. tadaa.dysamoriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10297987530825303618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9163141447241149534.post-80420551301632250252011-01-21T11:22:16.502-08:002011-01-21T11:22:16.502-08:00putting aside the obvious wish to have seen Quinn ...putting aside the obvious wish to have seen Quinn again... (sigh, and more on that in a moment) ... there are a few things that bothered me about this episode that could have been explored...<br /><br />the dialog from Xana (Von Glatz's Advocate) in response to the theft of the egg... let's address this critically:<br /><br />the aliens treat humans like cattle. killing, mutilating, experimentation, rape, murder... etc... and we're supposed to be totally positioned against the aliens, siding with humanity's right to life on Earth. yet, here we are presented with two objectionable actions by the human heroes, two of which are scientists, one of those being a very touchy-feely wanna have a dialog work things out with the aliens if possible kinda guy (Harrison, obviously). he STOLE an alien egg. an infant. i can see that scientific curiosity got the better of him in the moment, so ok... but...<br /><br />the alien infant is burned to death after grabbing hold of Suzanne, seconds after beginning to hatch (wow, those are long arms!). on one hand, they portrayed it as attacking Suzanne. but what did it actually do? it latched on and wouldn't let go. she was in pain... but the thing weighed a pound or three at max, wasn't secured down in the hazard box, so she could have pulled her arms out and it would have had to let go or be injured by impact with the glass. and... what's the first thing primates do when they're able to touch a parent/adult? they grab. it was instinct. not an attack. how could it possibly attack her? even with extreme strength in comparison to humans, it still would know nothing about who they were and where it was...<br /><br />unless... the Mor-Taxians have genetic memory. that would have been very interesting to explore. the fast growth shown in Unto Us a Child is Born suggests rapid development... were they expecting to make warriors from their born-knowledgeable young or would they have needed education and training?<br /><br />so, "kidnapping" of an (apparently innocent) infant and then unnecessary killing it. that's pretty harsh for the heroes, isn't it? what's worse is that they then excitedly rush off to murder the entire infant population in the ice factory. WOW, GUYS! that's rough! i thought the good guys were supposed to be all holier than thou???<br /><br />so there're my issues with murders of innocents (non-combatant infants, at that). next:<br /><br />why is Quinn gleefully exposing the newborn of his own species to murder at the hands of humans?? if Xana was enraged at the theft of an egg, she demonstrates that the Mor-Taxians DO have some kind of reverence for their young. what about Quinn? was that his goal? to really screw his own species by getting an entire generation killed as infants? i don't get it.<br /><br />so there are the morality issues.<br /><br /> more in the next comment...dysamoriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10297987530825303618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9163141447241149534.post-23133565439645656282010-06-03T01:14:50.192-07:002010-06-03T01:14:50.192-07:00I never got the whole "no one would believe i...I never got the whole "no one would believe in aliens" argument of this series. I mean, seriously, unless everyone who lived in '53 had their minds wiped, it's kind of hard to forget a mass planetary invasion by malevolent E.T.'s that almost succeeded.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9163141447241149534.post-59114651658619887452010-05-03T06:31:57.585-07:002010-05-03T06:31:57.585-07:00Ahh, yes, "Time to Reap". I'm not ev...Ahh, yes, "Time to Reap". I'm not even going to mention why the aliens in that episode are wearing the Advocate contamination suits. ;)The Sultan of Sarcasmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10075152597800879874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9163141447241149534.post-50787832916055115192010-05-02T17:30:52.287-07:002010-05-02T17:30:52.287-07:00You know, there was no obvious Quinn in S2 of cour...You know, there was no obvious Quinn in S2 of course. However, in the time-travel episode, they went back to the epicenter of the alien invasion and tried to inoculate the war leaders. Blackwood and Kincaid tried to gun down any that got so immunized to Earth's bacteria, but I kind of like to think that they missed the war leader. It ties up the coincidence of the ONE alien who's immune to earth's bacteria being of such high rank.Jimtronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18138709079942253485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9163141447241149534.post-5632883104669439442010-05-02T17:18:44.395-07:002010-05-02T17:18:44.395-07:00Herb was convinced that Quinn was somehow in the s...Herb was convinced that Quinn was somehow in the second season but fumbled creatively. I remember telling him that Quinn never showed up but they fumbled the idea of an alien rebel (in "The Defector" episode of season 2).<br /><br />I guess, the Mor-Taxians idea of morality is vastly different than ours. :) <br /><br />And I completely forgot Ilse's, "Death to all humans!" line. She got the chance to display her rage in this episode.The Sultan of Sarcasmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10075152597800879874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9163141447241149534.post-83933137240923557422010-05-02T16:43:35.456-07:002010-05-02T16:43:35.456-07:00Her line was great, though mostly for the irony. T...Her line was great, though mostly for the irony. The Mor-Taxians place zero value on human life, performing horrid experiments on us, but as soon as we start investigating their life cycles they freak out.<br /><br />Oh, Quinn would have been so glorious, and logical, in season 2. Of all the aliens, he for sure wouldn't turn himself over to this new breed. That's a real shame, a real missed opportunity.Jimtronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18138709079942253485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9163141447241149534.post-88752277853968172162010-05-02T14:20:45.747-07:002010-05-02T14:20:45.747-07:00I think one of my favorite scenes that you didn...I think one of my favorite scenes that you didn't mention was Advocate #1's (Ilse Von Glatz's Advocate) irate response to the eggs being stolen.<br /><br />"Is there no degradation too great? No sense of morality present at all on this damned planet?"<br /><br />I also enjoyed this line as well:<br /><br />"You idiots. It is clear what has happened."<br /><br />It was nice to see Quinn one last time. I know Herb Wright was pushing to have Quinn used in some form in WOTW season 2, but Mancuso and company dropped the ball on that.The Sultan of Sarcasmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10075152597800879874noreply@blogger.com